The Pasco Flyer
Chapter 791 Hidden Lake February 14, 2010
President: Scott Murphy tenraii@verizon.net
Vice-president: Steve Carper
Secretary: Pete Porebski
Treasurer: Les Conwell
Newsletter Editor: Dean Psiropoulos Phone: 727-937-7986 dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net
Flight Advisor: Les Conwell Phone: 727-841-9764
Technical Counselor: Rodney Daulton
***MEETING AT HIDDEN LAKE PAVILION IN MARCH***
The Chapter's next regular meeting will be held on March 13th 2010. Future chapter meetings will also be held on
the second Saturday of each month, and will be continued on that date for the foreseeable future. Meetings are open
to anyone with an interest in building, restoring, and flying airplanes. Meetings are held at the River Ridge Golf
Course clubhouse from May through September and at the Hidden Lake Airport pavilion from October through April.
See driving directions for both places at the bottom of this newsletter. Exceptions are made and things can change on
a monthly basis so watch this space for notices. This month's meeting has changed to River Ridge at the last minute
(2-12-2010) due to weather.
Presidents Corner: Why do you like to fly? I get asked that a lot as I'm sure some
of you do too. Let's see, I could give one of the time honored answers like ... it's so beautiful up there, or, I
like the freedom, or maybe ... it's an adventure. The truth is I really don't know why I like to fly. In itself that
is an understatement. I actually LOVE to fly. Of course I do think of all the reasons I just listed and more! But I
cannot put my finger on one. All I know is I have wanted to fly since I was 5 or 6. It is something that I hope to
continue to do until a very old age. I hope you all get to do it as long as you'd like. I dread the day when I can no
longer go up. Until then, I plan to do as much flying as I possibly can. Now that I've bored you to death, Go Fly!!!
Enjoy it as much as you can.
Opening: Scott Murphy called the meeting of EAA Chapter 791 to order at 0911 hrs on
February 13th, 2010 at the River Ridge Clubhouse meeting room with the Pledge of Allegiance and a Moment of Silence.
Guests and First Timers: Dave Shaffer, retired NY forensic investigator. Jeff Smeref
from Ontario Canada is back for the winter.
Approval of Previous Months Minutes: Motion to accept previous months minutes made and
seconded. Previous months minutes were approved.
Treasurers Report: See Les Conwell for more information. Les reported 30 members have
paid their 2010 dues so far. Please get your 2010 dues paid, the year is already one quarter gone.
Announcements:
- Ed Heater donated some training tapes, will put in the chapter library.
- John Edwards noted that a new electric fuel hose reel has been installed at Hidden Lake and asked that we all
take the time to familiarize ourselves with it.
Old Business:
- John Voda - Young Eagles - John spoke at the Rotary club last month, impressed them to sponsor the Interact group.
March 6 is next YE, Interact, Cub Pack and some special needs kids. Craig park special needs group, John will be speaking
there after meeting looking for some more recruits. Mike M. will assist John. Last year's business, changes in YE credits,
more than 10 flights you get $5 credit for each flight toward EAA scholarship. John has info if anyone interested. This can
be used for academy scholarship and local YE activities but not fuel. March 6 event will have 10 scouts, 10 Interact and
maybe 10 more for 20-30 total. John says if you know some kids that might be interested please invite them and their parents.
Award nominations, John has a form for these if you know a pilot, ground crew etc. that works hard on YE feel free to nominate
them. Be at Hidden lake by 8:30 if you are a worker bee/pilot. Sid passed around pilot sign up sheet. Sportys pilot shop
started a YE log book, YEs can use a number associated with this Sportys to log on to their website and take advantage of appx
$150.00 worth of training materials that Sportys is offering free of charge.
- Update on Art Michaud and passenger. Passenger is at home recuperating. Art is at home and has graduated from a walker
to a cane.
- ZPH has cancelled the airshow, insurance issues. So we won't be helping. Will try again next year.
- More discussion on having a meeting on second April Saturday. Since no ZPH event we could meet but lots of campers go
over to LAL. Bruce moved that April meeting will be canceled and seconded. Suggested everyone meet at the campsite instead.
- Next Chapter fly-out. Englewood EAA group having fly inn, suggested by Steve Carper, invited by Vandenburg EAA Last Saturday
of this month, dirt strip called Buchanen.
- John Voda - Old buzzards, have insurance form, adults sign a waiver. Do pilots want to fly adults..mixed emotions from the
pilots present.
- Any info on Art Michaud, another week or two off the cane, passenger has another month before off the walker, finally has all
tubes out, eating solid food etc. Words of encouragement to Art wood be good, he is down because of what happened but will fly again.
New Business:
- Scott needs ideas for future month's speakers. Bruce waters, SNF camping, two weeks we'll need to stake out site.
Bruce sent around a sign up sheet for those interested, contact him if you're interested. Appx show of hands yielded 10
so at the meeting. Set up on the Sunday before, will not have the kitchen at the site any more, go out to eat vs cooking
at the site, worked better last year with less hassle, lots easier. Scott says ya'll come, its mucho fun. Have 35 camping
spots available, last year we had 48 people and the police who came by to socialize and eat. Marcel and Mike Boyce bring
motor homes we may be able to squeeze in another 30 foot motor home in. Chuck Lobdell also bringing a 20 foot motor home.
- Bill Stewart, anyone have email for him, keeps bouncing..
Safety Tip(s):
- Winter operations - always check weather, flight plan.com is a good place,also check the links tab on the EAA791 website.
- When landing a C-182 make sure the strut compresses so that you have steering.
- Mike M. suggested computer flight planning, try google then "hemstool" downloads program that is good for "go-nogo"
planning. Shows maps with different colors for VFR, IFR, MVFR and little dots that you can click on to see the wx in that
location, looks back 4 hours and ahead for the next couple hours.
- Bob...old C-172 had crack in scissors of nose gear, could allow nose wheel to fall off so check your scissors.
- Carl...biannual last week, before pulling mixture flip the mags off and back on to check the P-lead connections, something
to think about, don't do it except at idle otherwise you may blow the muffler out.
- Bob B passed around some old pictures from Chicago's O-hare airport.
Meeting Program: Our featured speaker failed to show up so some of our members picked
up the slack with flying follies and words of wisdom:
- Dave worked at a flight school in Phoenix (Pan Am flight academy) then moved to Ft Pierce. Stan was a marine who
went to Capital (United) airlines retired 1989 with 34 years. Baltimore to KC at 35k feet, he heard a bang on cockpit
door, stewy said a snake was loose in coach. Sent the Flight Engineer back with crash axe and found a Garder snake in
a wicker basket brought by a hippie. Flew DC-3/4/6/7/10, 727, Viscount. Had to write a report on the snake but never
heard anything more about it. Ed Kratzer flew for airlines also, no snake stories. Marcel used to race boats
- Jeremy told of a flight he piloted a while back. They departed San Juan PR for Philly. Clear skies, following a
737, at 15k feet hit turbulence, thought it was the 737 wake. Even with harness on Jeremy hit breaker panel with his head.
Couch in back broke loose from its moorings. On descent the altimeter went out, then remaining instruments starting going
haywire so they declared an emergency. Philly was closed so they went to Allentown (PA) who also shutdown before they
could land so on to Atlantic City NJ. Shot the approach with virtually no avionics working, at night and in winter.
ILS and AOA were working so they went for it (500ft & 1-1.5 miles vis), broke out at 100 feet and touched down and got
the passengers out. Jeremy did a walk around and saw 43 burn marks, a static wick missing and holes. A detailed inspection
($600k) revealed lots of subsequent burned and charred wiring needing replacement. Engine mfgr said it was lucky the fuel
and engine computers kept working or they would have been in the Atlantic. The culprit, lightning from dry cell
thunderstorms.
- NASA info from S. Carper (Wallops island) shuttle replacements, Taurus rocket at Wallops. Uses rockets motors from
the Russians circa 1970s, safety suspect.
- Pancake breakfast discussion...during YEs? Too many things going on and don't want kids getting sick in the airplanes.
Steve and John suggested after YEs having a hot dog cookout. Steve suggested doing it during old buzzards with a hot
dog/burger cookout. Whoever shows up after YEs for Old Buzzards would be our customers, number unknown. Pillar Group
(Chevron) gave out the YE scholarship last year, we didn't take any money out of our treasury to send a YE.
- Jeff S.- in Canada they fly 200 kids and feed the kids after YE rides. The kids are given a ticket (after they get
back from their ride) for food and soda. Canada chapters started something similar to the Michigan air tour, fly to
different airports and promote aviation. Jeff's chapter is planning to visit other chapter's airports this year along
with the 3 day tour to a couple adjacent provinces. He recommended pooling YE credits and put in a package for all the
kids that want to go and share with the other chapters as needed.
- Fly-outs, do we want to do one? June? March better, 20th of the month was agreed on. Bartow was popular, Ocala/Venice
have small restaurant. Venice was decided on. Lunch is better so meet at 9:30 at FA40 for a tentative 10am takeoff.
Project Status:
- Ed/Alex K.(Piper Archer)- Repainted by Hawk (Vandenburg). Re-upholstering.
- Wes/Gloria (Piper Colt) - Replacing fabric covering.
- Alan Uhr (Zenith 601) - Wings removed to comply with AD (about $350 and 80 hours work).
- Pete P. (Falco/C-172) - AWOL this month.
- Les C. (GP4) - Gear trouble. Flying at 130mph VLE until switches adjusted.
- Wayne (C-150) - Working on wings.
- Marcel B. (Lancair) - 110 hours and flying approaches to Hidden Lake at 120 MPH. Whew!
- Rodney (Swift/Skybolt) - Polishing the Swift. No progress on skybolt.
- John V. (Lancair) - Looking for appraiser for partially built kit.
- Jerry A. (RV-8) - Progress on wings and fuel tanks. Not yet ready for Proseal.
- Charles (Mustang II) - Horizontal/vertical stabilizers on.
- Dean P. (RV-6A) - 25 hours total.
- Scott M. (Mustang II) - Hole in fuel tank, painting interior, powder coating pedals.
- Richard B. - Retired, flying and enjoying the RV-7
- Mike M. - Bought A20 Vista LSE from Ukrane, working aileron counterweights.
50/50 Winner: Total was $28. Winner was Richard Brinkerhoff!
Last items: Scott Post still has EAA791 embroidered shirts available, nice polos.
Adjournment: Scott Murphy adjourned meeting at 1145 hrs. The next general meeting will
be at 0900 hrs on March 13th at the Hidden Lake Pavilion.
********* RIVER RIDGE GOLF COURSE MEETING PLACE ***********
May through September meetings are held at the River Ridge Golf Course clubhouse (11022 Tee Time Circle,
New Port Richey, 727-848-1048) starting 9:00 AM. There is ample parking in front of the building. To
get to the River Ridge Golf Course clubhouse you go EAST on Ridge Road (past Hidden Lakes) until it ends. Once there,
you take a right turn and you are on Decubellis Road. Take Decubellis south a short distance untill you see Tee Time
Circle on your left. Turn onto Tee Time Circle, the clubhouse entrance will be on your right. To join us for breakfast
show up around 8:00-8:30.
********* HIDDEN LAKE PAVILLION MEETING PLACE ***********
October through April meetings are held at the Hidden Lake Pavilion in the Hidden Lake Community at 9am. There is ample
parking in front of the building. To get to the pavilion you go in the WEST entrance to the community (north off Ridge Road)
and follow Airway Boulevard parallel to the runway to the north end. Continue through the open gate till you see the cars
and park on the left. The Hidden Lake Airport Community is adjacent to Ridge Rd about one mile east of Little Rd and four
miles east of US Highway 19.